Whole Rye and Wheat Sourdough

Do you have any recipes that use dark rye flour? A 25-pound bag from Bob’s Red Mill is taking up valuable freezer space for manly essentials such as White Castles and Eggo, so any suggestions would be well appreciated.
Buying a sack of dark rye seemed like a good idea considering that shipping costs were split with an Austrian co-worker. I hear they’re huge on rye — he’s probably on his second or third bag by now. He doesn’t seem like the type who keeps spreadsheets of bread formulas, though.
I haven’t seen many recipes that specifically call for dark rye flour so I mainly use it as a replacement for medium or whole rye. Dark rye is milled from the outermost layers of the grain, making it rich in bran and fiber. It also gives breads a stronger spicy rye aroma, a deeper shade of reddish-brown in the crust, and a darker and tighter crumb.
This whole rye and and wheat sourdough recipe originally calls for medium rye flour so it’s a bit more dense than it should be. The acidity from the whole rye starter gives it a good shelf life and subtle sourness. Since rye flour also retains moisture well, the crumb stays moist even without additional fats or sugar.
The dough consists of 50% white wheat flour, 25% whole wheat flour, but only 25% whole rye flour. I guess I could consider it a good start in freeing up some freezer space.
recipe adapted from Jeffrey Hamelman’s Bread: A Baker’s Book of Techniques and Recipes
Yeastspotting at Wild Yeast Blog
Whole Rye and Wheat Sourdough
makes 2 large loaves

For the Sourdough / Rye Starter:
Ingredients Volume Ounces Grams mature sourdough culture 4 tsp .4 11 water, at room temperature 7/8 cup 6.6 187 medium or dark rye flour 1 3/4 cups 8 227
Sourdough / Rye Starter Instructions:
Dissolve the sourdough culture in the water. Add the rye flour and mix until evenly hydrated. Cover and leave at room temperature for 14 to 16 hours.
Final Dough Formula:
Ingredients Volume Ounces Grams bread or high-gluten flour 3 1/2 cups 16 454 whole wheat flour 1 3/4 cups 8 227 water, at room temperature 1 7/8 cups 15.2 431 kosher salt 1 tbsp + 2 tsp .6 17 instant yeast 1 tsp sourdough / rye starter, cut into pieces 14.6 414
Final Dough Instructions:
Mix Mix the final dough ingredients until a shaggy ball
is formed.
Knead 10 to 12 minutes
Rest 5 minutes
Knead 1 minute to further strengthen the gluten.
Bulk Ferment 1 hour
Divide 2 pieces
Preshape loose rounds
Rest 15 to 20 minutes
Shape shape into a tight oval or boule
Preheat Oven 460ºF/240ºC
Final Proof 1 to 1 1/4 hours at room temperature

Proofed whole rye and wheat sourdough.
Score

Slashed whole rye and wheat sourdough.
Steam 1 cup of boiling water poured into a heavy steam pan,
preferably cast iron
Bake Bake at 460ºF/240ºC for 20 minutes. Rotate the loaves
and lower the heat to 440ºF/225ºC. Bake for another
20 to 25 minutes, until the crust is a deep shade of
reddish brown.
Cool At least 4 hours

Whole rye and wheat sourdough crust and crumb.
























November 30th, 2008 at 3:20 am
What fantastic loaves! They look far better than any bread I’ve seen in bakeries here…
Cheers,
Rosa
November 30th, 2008 at 7:07 am
Phew, I’m not the only one with spreadsheets of baking formulas
I don’t tend to bake with rye flour, so I can’t help you there. Unless, that is, you feel like shipping some bread to me. Then I can totally help you out.
November 30th, 2008 at 7:30 am
That brad looks wonderful!
I got the new oven so I’ll be finally able to make some of your wonderful breads
November 30th, 2008 at 8:31 am
Unfortunately I can’t help with the dark rye bread recipes, but what I can say is that these breads look so rustic and yummy!
November 30th, 2008 at 8:39 am
Wow great bread as usual
this is interesting with rye flour
November 30th, 2008 at 8:44 am
Of course my first instinct was to search for dark rye use by Dan Lepard and came up with this. But you probably already have the books anyway
And of course, you can just make this beautiful sourdough again and again…
November 30th, 2008 at 10:39 am
Gorgeous breads… that rival some artisnal bread I’ve seen at bakeries!
November 30th, 2008 at 11:37 am
Those are amazingly beautiful, Jude. I taught two teenage boys how to bake bread today and I’m glad their bread rose for them.
By the way, thanks for the Cake Wrecks link. ^_^ It was the first time I’d seen it.
November 30th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Jude, seriously, those look better than most pro bakeries I’ve seen out there! Wow, wow! thanks for the great information and insight too!
November 30th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
My husband just proposed marriage to you. I had to remind him that he’s already married. Grumble.
Indeed. Your Whole Rye bread is proposal worthy.
November 30th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
“Manly essentials.” Teehee.
November 30th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Very, very manly bread.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:54 am
Haha I agree with the manly posts comments. I think dark rye flour would be so hearty and tasty, it’s hard to turn down. This is calling my corned beef name
December 1st, 2008 at 8:09 am
Beautiful bread! Wonderful with a bowl of soup on a snowy day!
December 1st, 2008 at 9:54 am
I like seeing the score and then then bread after it is baked. It’s bread art. Neat!
December 1st, 2008 at 10:29 am
Beautiful loaves!
I use dark rye flour in pumpernickel buns.
December 1st, 2008 at 10:52 am
This looks great. I’ve never tried making a sourdough bread before – something new to try. I can’t think of anything appropriate for rye flour, but I’ll check with the Spouse. He’s more experienced with bread than I am.
December 1st, 2008 at 2:10 pm
I’m on such a bread kick at the moment – I just need to get the nerve up for a sourdough! Looks amazing.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:07 pm
WOW!! Beautiful color, texture & pattern. I have never used rye .. before or sourdough.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:02 am
Caitlin – Yay for bread geekery.
Manggy – I don’t have Lepard’s book but I’ve tried some of his recipes. Thanks for the link!
Argus – Cake Wrecks is fun stuff
If you’re not a pro, that is.
Squawk – uh….
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:52 pm
beautiful loaves.
sorry, no recipes to share using the dark rye
December 2nd, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Gorgeous loaves. Love rye, wish I had some of this flour but maybe I know where to look.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:53 pm
I don’t have any recipes specifically for dark rye, but how about mixing it in with your morning oatmeal. Maybe even instead of your oatmeal. (no manly Eggos for you) Or just keep doing what you’re doing, that’s obviously making great bread!
December 5th, 2008 at 2:03 am
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December 7th, 2008 at 10:24 am
look at you with your rye bad-assery!
March 3rd, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Did you use high gluten or bread flour?
I’ve used a 12% protein flour and the bread came out very very flat..
June 11th, 2010 at 3:33 am
Your breads look amazing. Thanks for the recipes.
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